Buy Bet Craps
6 and 8: Place bet always better.
5 and 9: Place bet always better, unless commission on Buy is on win only.
4 and 10: Buy bet always better.
What's the norm for commission on Buy in Vegas? Are the mostly uniform? or depends on which casino?
In other words, 2 to 1 odds returns the original 1 credit bet and a 1 credit profit. The Best Craps Bets. The best bets in craps are the pass line bet, taking the odds, the don’t pass bar, the come bet, and placing the 6 or the 8. Let’s look at each: Pass Line. This is the most basic and popular of bets when playing Craps.
These bets are similar to the Place Bets with different pay offs. A Buy Bet can be placed at any time on any of the points. This bet wins if the point is rolled before a 7. Pay offs are the same as the odds but casinos take a 5% vig on the bet. Wins pay 2 to 1 (4 or 10), 3 to 2 (5 or 9) and 6 to 5 (6 or 8). The opposite to. Each bettor can take down their bets at any time, following craps rules (ie. Base CB cannot be taken down) - Each bettor can work their bets on the Come Out roll. Pressing is a key component of the Place/Buy play. How do we create rules that keeps the potential total amount bet the same? Of course there is always the pass / don’t pass craps strategy with odds bet featuring no house edge and no commission. But there are situations when buy bet is the only option. Other Craps Bet Odds. Buy bets on the 4 and 10 come up with an advantage for the player, versus the standard odds offered by the casino. Craps is a dice game in which the players make wagers on the outcome of the roll, or a series of rolls, of a pair of dice. Players may wager money against each other (playing 'street craps') or a bank (playing 'casino craps', also known as 'table craps', or often just 'craps'). Because it requires little equipment, 'street craps' can be played in informal settings.
Most take commission up front. But it varies from casino to casino. Sometimes even from pit to pit!Stratosphere (can combine vig -- eg buy the 4 for $10 and the 10 for $10 total $21 cost up front)
Jerry's Nugget (cannot combine vig)
Joker's Wild (do not know if you can combine vig - but doubt it)
Ellis Island (do not know if you can combine vig - but doubt it)
Automatic buy (EG: $10 pays $19, $15 pays $29) -- least hassle fastest way to do this
Silverton
Red Rock
Palace Station
<others may include Stations properties>
Buy starts at $5.00 with vig on the win (requires verbal request - not automatic - uses $0.25 chips) -- all the Boyd properties downtown -- Hawaiian's favorite
Main Street Station
California Casino
Fremont Casion
Vig on the win starting at $20 to $25 (depends on casino, but most are starting at $20):
Everywhere else
If you bet for a multiple of $20, the buy on the 5 and 9 with vig up front is the same, not worse. But in general the place bet is better because your vig is not rounded up in some cases. Also, if they round down, there may be a slight advantage at $25 and $50 buy bets on the 5 and 9. But NOBODY does it. Or VERY rarely anyway, and dealers and pit crews will likely complain if you ask them about it.
FWIW, check out the bubble craps machines. The rules will vary by property, but at the Plaza, 4Q and Binnion's the vig is charged on the win only. Of course these palces are also limited to 2X on odds.
as a new craps player can someone explain the difference between place and buy? I was playing last week and a guy had a buy chip on top of his bets all of the time. He also tried to pre pay vig once and the dealers were all confused and said they don't do that.
What are the difference if pay outs for each?
$10 bet on each
4/10 buy vs place
5/9 buy vs place
6/8 buy vs placeI tried to read WoO but it didn't make sense to me.
A PLACE bet involves YOUR choice of a number rather than the dice's choice but YOU pay for that privilege by getting a lower payout on Place bets.
A BUY bet involves YOUR choice of a number rather than the dice's choice AND YOUR choice to be paid the true and correct odds on the bet, which of course they usually only willing to do for a bit more money referred to as a commission. The dealers have their way of handling the commission and the Box and the Eye in the Sky will know what is going on when they see extra money going out because the dealers mark the bet with a little lamer saying 'Buy'.
Physically a buy bet and a place bet are positioned in the same manner, the buy lamer just means if it wins pay him the correct odds since that is what he has purchased with his commission.
When you have vig on the win (most common in Vegas) a buy bet pay different depending on how much you bet it.
$5 buy pays $10 - $1 = $9 (same as place bet)
$10 buy pays $20 - $1 = $19
$15 buy pays $30 - $1 = $29
$20 buy pays $40 - $1 = $39
$25 buy pays $50 - $1 = $49
$30 buy pays $60 - $2 = $58
$35 buy pays $70 - $2 = $68
$40 buy pays $80 - $2 = $78
$45 buy pays $90 - $2 = $88
$50 buy pays $100-$2 = $98
$55 buy pays $110-$3 = $107
$60 buy pays $120-$3 = $117
$65 buy pays $130-$4 = $126
$70 buy pays $140-$4 = $136
$75 buy pays $150-$4 = $146
$80 buy pays $160-$4 = $156
$85 buy pays $170-$5 = $165
$90 buy pays $180-$5 = $175
$95 buy pays $190-$5 = $185
$100 buy pays $200-$5 = $195
To figure out larger sized bets, you divide your bet amount by $100 and look at the pay for n times the $100 ($195 per $100 bet) plus the pay for the remainder.
So a $150 buy bet would pay $195 + $98 = $293
If you're not getting vig on the win (less common) it's not as good of a deal, and vig on the win is most common in Vegas, so this is what you really want to know for the bargains.
You want to generally get paid as much as you can just before the vig goes up. So $25, $50, and multiples of $20 beyond that, meaning $60, $80 and $100. They are going to round up typically on $75 .. not down. But SOME places WILL charge a $3 vig on a $75 buy if you ask them first up front. Most dealers charge $4 vig for a $75 buy.
I hope this helps.
Buy starts at $5.00 with vig on the win (requires verbal request - not automatic - uses $0.25 chips) -- all the Boyd properties downtown -- Hawaiian's favorite
Main Street Station
California Casino
Fremont Casion
These casinos use 25¢ chips? I thought Joker's Wild was the last casino in Vegas to still have them.
If these other casinos do use them, is it only for the buy commission, or can they be used elsewhere?
For example, can I make place bets in fractional units?
Wait a sec...
These casinos use 25¢ chips? I thought Joker's Wild was the last casino in Vegas to still have them.
If these other casinos do use them, is it only for the buy commission, or can they be used elsewhere?
For example, can I make place bets in fractional units?
Not any more. Joker's Wild no longer uses $0.25 chips. The dealers are ECSTATIC about it too as the dice move about five times faster.
Place And Buy Bets Craps
The $0.25 chips at the downtown Boyd Properties are used EXCLUSIVELY for buy bet vig-on-the-win. Verbal request REQUIRED. Nothing else except dealer bets! That is, you can throw a $0.25 hardway for the dealers, and they will book it. But that's it.Not good for ANYTHING else.
It really is just giving in specifically to the Hawaiians who want to use their buy-four and buy-ten strategies at lower denoms (for practice, really).
I have seen buy bets go to max bets from two players at the same time at the California ($2,000 buy x2 players -- casino paid $8,000 per roll total TWICE).
Very unusual for what's always a $5 minimum table with double odds to see that sort of action.
Start out thinking of a PASS LINE bet...
A PLACE bet involves YOUR choice of a number rather than the dice's choice but YOU pay for that privilege by getting a lower payout on Place bets.
A BUY bet involves YOUR choice of a number rather than the dice's choice AND YOUR choice to be paid the true and correct odds on the bet, which of course they usually only willing to do for a bit more money referred to as a commission. The dealers have their way of handling the commission and the Box and the Eye in the Sky will know what is going on when they see extra money going out because the dealers mark the bet with a little lamer saying 'Buy'.
Physically a buy bet and a place bet are positioned in the same manner, the buy lamer just means if it wins pay him the correct odds since that is what he has purchased with his commission.
So basically they are the same bet but the buy pays better? I would understand this if you paid a commission up front but when you pay commission only on wins it makes no sense to me. Owell, I will just keep to pass line and come bets.
Craps is one of the most popular table games in Las Vegas. We found 243 installations of the game at 65 casinos in the market for our 2021 Las Vegas Table Games Survey. Nearly all Las Vegas casinos with tables offer the game. Some smaller locals casinos do not deal the game, or it is only available at peak hours.
Related: Las Vegas crapless craps survey
Minimum craps bet and odds for Las Vegas craps
The section below is broken up into three sections. It is sorted by the expected minimum bet. Note that this may be higher during busier hours. The games are then sorted by the odds available at the table and whether the field pays double or triple on 12.
| $1 3-4-5x
| $3 2x
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$5
| 10x Triple Field
Double Field
| 5x Double Field
2x Triple Field
| 3-4-5x Triple Field
Double Field
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$10
| 100x Double Field
20x Triple Field
5x Triple Field
2x Triple Field
| 10x Triple Field
Double Field
| 3-4-5x Triple Field
Double Field
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| $15 10x Double Field
3-4-5x Triple Field
| 3-4-5x Double Field
| $25 3-4-5x Triple Field
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Las Vegas craps tables that pay triple on field 12
Many Las Vegas casinos only pay double on the field when a 12 is rolled. There are 35 where the field pays triple on 12. This cuts the field’s house edge in half. The list below shows where those games are found. Odds are 3-4-5x unless otherwise noted.
$1
$3
$5
| $10
| $15
$25
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How to play craps
A craps game starts with a come out roll. The player making this roll must make a bet that meets the table minimum on either the pass line or don’t pass. The stickman pushes the dice to this player and there is a roll. The dice must hit the back wall to count.
If the come out roll is a 7 or 11, the pass line wins and the don’t pass loses. The don’t pass wins on a 2 or 3, while the pass line loses. On a 12, the pass line loses and the don’t pass bet pushes. This is the house roll. Any of these rolls are followed by another come out with the same shooter.
If the roll is a 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 or 10, the number becomes the point. Players may place odds behind the line bet. The pass line wins if this number is rolled before a 7. If a 7 is rolled before the point, the don’t pass wins.
How craps odds work
All Las Vegas casinos offer odds on pass line and don’t pass bets. Come and don’t come bets also have odds available. These are the best deal in the house. There is no house edge on odds bets at a craps table. If a game allows double odds, the player may place double the amount of the pass line bet or lay to win up to double the amount from the don’t pass side. The payback depends on the number.
- 4 and 10: 2:1
- 5 and 9: 3:2
- 6 and 8: 6:5
A player that takes odds on a 4 from the pass line wins double the odds amount if that number comes before a 7. It loses if a 7 is first. From the don’t pass, the player would lay double the amount to be won.
If the come out roll is a 4, and the player bet $5, the pass line max odds is $10. If the 4 comes before a 7, the $5 pass line bet wins, as well as $20 on the $10 odds. The bets are returned to the player, too. From the don’t pass, the player would be able to lay $20 to win $10 on the odds. A 7 coming before the 4 would pay the $20 odds $10 and $5 on the don’t pass.
At a 3-4-5 times odds tables, the maximum odds win is six times the pass line bet for every number. On a $5 bet, the player could bet $15 on 4 and 10, $20 on 5 and 9 and $25 on 6 and 8. Each of the bets wins $30 if the point is rolled before a 7. From the don’t pass, the player can lay $30 on any of those numbers and win the amount the pass line would have bet. For example, on a 4 point, the player could lay $30 to win $15. This bet wins if the 7 comes before the point. It loses if the point is rolled first.
Other craps bets
The craps felt is covered with different types of bets. These are the ones you will find in every Las Vegas casino:
Field
Field is a one-roll bet. The player wins on a 2, 3, 4, 9, 10, 11 and 12. The field pays double on 2. The 12 either pays double or triple on 12, depending on the casino.
Place
A place bet is made on one of the six numbers that can be points. The bettor would like that number to come before a 7. The payouts at 9:5 on 4 and 10, 7:5 on 5 and 9 and 7:6 on 6 and 8.
Buy
A buy bet is like a place bet except it has a different payout. The player pays 5% on the bet in commission. It is generally available on 4 and 10. The house will often give the player a free buy on bets of $20 or more.
Hardways
The hardways are the sets of doubles in the middle of the table. These bets pay out if the hardway is rolled before an easy way or a 7. The hard 4 and 10 pay 7:1. Hard 6 and 8 pay 9:1.
Any craps
Any craps is a one-roll bet. It pays 9:1 if a 2, 3 or 12 is rolled.
Hop bets
Hop bets are one-roll bets. These are an exact calling of the dice rolled. Hardways pay 30:1. All other rolls pay 15:1. The 2, 3, 11 and 12 are often shown on the table. Many houses will let the player hop any dice combination.
Las Vegas craps FAQ
Can I play $1 craps in Las Vegas?
Club Fortune in Henderson deals $1 craps with 3-4-5 times odds.
Can I play $5 craps on the Las Vegas Strip?
Sahara deals $5 craps during slow times. Otherwise, Las Vegas Strip craps starts at $10 and higher.
What are the best craps odds in Las Vegas?
The Cromwell on the Strip offers 100 times odds. Sam’s Town has 20 times odds. Main Street Station likely will when it reopens.
Best Bets In Craps And Why
Does the field pay triple on 12 in Las Vegas?
Best Craps Bets For Beginners
About half of Las Vegas casinos, including all MGM properties, pay triple on 12 on field bets. The full list is in a section on this page.